A good note on which to end the year

The polls go up and down on the results if (a BIG ‘if’) Brits get a vote on leaving the E.U. I doubt that 51% would stand up once the threats and blackmail started from the Establishment and Big Business, rather a 60%-65% starting support would be needed. People lose their ideology fast when their pay packets are affected. Threats and blackmail would come fast and thick, including loss of jobs. We had a taste of it with the Scottish referendum. Everything hinges on the British people coming to the realization that they now live in a province of a new country called the E.U. and their desire to live once again in a self-governing independent country called the U.K. Only a relatively few of us fully understand that the E.U. is more than some trading bloc but is in fact a nascent federal country similar in structure to the U.S., Canada and Australia. The Government and the sycophant U.K. media try to hide the reality of what is going on by still calling the U.K. a ‘country’ but it is no more a country in the primary sense of that word than is Scotland. The important thing is for Brits to get a vote on their system of government — whatever the outcome of that vote. If there were a vote and a majority voted to continue the U.K. as an E.U. province, I’d be satisfied with that result. But people need to have that vote, not be led around like sheep by lies and deceit — which are presently defining the formation of the E.U.

I do wonder at the poor understanding so many politicians have of what the country wants and needs. Fewer politicians; simpler laws; more pragmatic answers to problems and cleaner lines of governance NONE of which are provided by the EU or The Welsh assembly (commonly known in Wales as the arsembly).
When all parties agree on something it is time to become suspicious; on a recent edition of Question Time from Cardiff all the panelists agreed that The Welsh assembly was a good thing for Wales and the vast majority of people want to keep it! Not around here they don’t!

Get out of the EU and dissolve the arsembly we say!

I don’t know if it’s a good idea to make a comparison with the Scottish “no” campaign and the EU “no” campaign. I followed the Scottish campaigns and I became convinced of the “yes” case. I remain fervently against the EU. Many SNP supporters are also against the EU, mainly on the grounds of the “democratic deficit”.

Otherwise, thanks for your hard work and Merry Christmas.
PS One New Year’s Resolution is to sign up. Don’t know why but it seems like a hassle, but I’ll get there.

A lot of time and money has gone into establishing this ‘One Europe’. It has been a long time in the planning. Does anyone really understand WHY this ‘Union’was really formed in the first place?

MSRIDGIT, the ‘union’ was formed from the ashes of WWII, and Great Britain wasn’t even part of the original team. Although we were instrumental in winning the war and liberating Europe from the clutches of Hitler and his band of merry men, with France just watching from the sidelines, and De Gaulle living a life of luxury in the UK while our brave soldiers died on the battlefields of France and Germany. The concept first came to life in the mind of a Frenchman in the 1920’s,when a senior League of Nations official, Frenchman Jean Monnet, first began to dream of building a ‘United States of Europe’, very much on the lines that decades later would shape the European Union as it is today.He knew there was no chance of bringing such an astonishingly ambitious vision into being all at once. So his plan was that it should gradually be constructed, piece by stealthy piece, without ever declaring too openly what was intended to be its ultimate goal.
At first it should be presented as just a trading arrangement, the ‘Common Market’ set up in 1957 by the Treaty of Rome. But the essence of that treaty was to create the core institutions of what Monnet always intended should one day be the ‘Government of Europe’.
The idea was to work for ‘ever closer union’.
Once it started rolling, there was no stopping it, with even the UK under Ted Heath desperate to join. But the concept was fatally flawed from the start, and all these decades past, still is. There is no ‘one size fits all’. There never can be, without destroying the economies of the poorer nations in the EU. But the unelected leaders appear to be doing just that, by using the wealth from the richer countries to prop up the failed economies of the poorer ones. That’s why the UK is desperately needed in Europe. They don’t want us. We’re just the cash cow they need with our stupid intellectual idiots in government who insist on playing ‘by the rules’, while the rest of the influential countries in the EU, flout them, and prosper. Why should we feed this monster, when the monster just wants to devour us, and ultimately will.
Forever eu sceptic!

The European Economic Community was planned by by Hitler’s economist Walther Funk and one Prof Hunke in 1941. We did not beat Nazi germany, we beat Hitler. Hitler’s Civil Servants and Officers were denazified as early as 1951, then went back about their business of building a European Economic Community. One of the first Bilderbergers, Prince Renhard of Holland I believe, was an active promoter of the the European Union being set up. Mitterand and Delors were Vichy, so with Monnet, the Denazified Germans and Mussolini’s Italians the Common Market came into being as a smoke screen for the present set up of a Europe ruled by Germany, via an EEU and Central Bank in Germany. The Germans have the Sudetenland back, via Brussels, and three SS Regiments in Ukraine, Bosnia and Croatia have been reformed.
However I share John’s hope for the future. When 17,000 German’s demonstrated against immigration and Brussels control of the borders last week, it shone a little hope on the possible collapse of the European Project. What was disappointing was the British Media studiously ignored it and refused to print it, or gave it a small column in their online offering. Our Media is deeply wedfded to Brussels and that will be our biggest hurdle. Viscount Rothermere’s ghost still walks the hallowed halls of the Daily Mail, I am sure.

Leaving the EU is pointless without removing American bases and banks from our territory, and
making it clear that whatever the consequences, which would be temporary, our government
will no longer be a mouthpiece for US propaganda, nor support their wars of aggression. Period.
The EU is a US banking construct, it’s purpose was/is to remove sovereignty from European countries,
and to create both an alternative reserve currency to the dollar, and as a barrier to Russian economic
growth. It has been a spectacular failure, not to say a disaster.
UKIP, headed by Farage, never mention banks or banking. Banking is the most spectacular and
successful fraud in history. No government even tells the truth about creation of money by these
fraudsters. When we leave the EU, there should follow a debt jubilee of both public and private
‘debt’ which is all fraud. Only the Government to create and issue our money, private banks to be
wound up. Shareholdings zeroed. Tenants become owners, landlords compensated with say
2 years rent. The end of the rentier class. Landtax re-introduced. Income tax abolished.
There will be no sovereign people anywhere without these reforms. We must stand against the banks,
or all really is lost.

“” When Scotland threatened to register the “wrong” result in its independence referendum, the big guns swung into action”

When Ireland registered the ”wrong” result at Lisbon Treaty, the big guns swung into action which included tremendous funding from the EU Piggy bank, Ryanair and the Corporate world generally. The second time round the ‘PEOPLE’ finally got it right……………… Aint democracy wonderful

Well Phil, I for one will again rely on the BBC’s legendary impartiality and finely balanced reporting to give me the full, unbiased facts on our advantage for remaining the European Union. Maybe a programme with a ‘live’ studio audience, (as opposed to dead one) questions and answer type thing. Maybe hosted by say, Andrew Marr or that David Attenborough chappie.